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    • CommentAuthorMichael
    • CommentTimeJan 10th 2008
     # 31
    I've installed and applied that new version. Thanks, sambarino, let's see what everybody thinks. gobolinux.org doesn't load for me right now, so I can't compare the two.
    • CommentAuthorm@cCo
    • CommentTimeJan 10th 2008 edited
     # 32
    Ok, just a couple of suggestions (from my pov, of course)

    1. The tint of green/aquamarine used seems too "shocking" to me, maybe we could try to use the same colours as the wiki?
      So F1F9FE for the already-read topics' background, ECF2E6 for the "forum's" background (such as the add-comment box), and 75C0C2 for the foreground.
      Unfortunately I can't think of a colour suitable for the not-yet-read topics. Maybe just a darker blue than the already-read one?
    2. I think the icons in the upper right part of the page are a little vertically misaligned. However I believe we could just remove the house and instead put them on the same line, thus making the big gobolinux logo on the left a link to the official site.

    As always, just my two cents, I'll wait for yours :P
    • CommentAuthorMohjive
    • CommentTimeJan 11th 2008
     # 33
    @m@cCo: thanks for expressing exactly my views as well. :)
    I have nothing to add.
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      CommentAuthorsambarino
    • CommentTimeJan 11th 2008
     # 34
    i plan on changing the colors, i just have no idea what is generally desired in terms of which colors to do... i by no means think i got the colors right myself so thanks for the input...

    as some may know i have a slight case of color-blindness, so i'm gonna work on the theme again this weekend and hopefully it will look much better after that

    any more color corrections will be most appreciated
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      CommentAuthorsambarino
    • CommentTimeJan 11th 2008 edited
     # 35
    also, let me know if you want me to change any fonts,

    sorry for the double post, anyway...

    i am also going to move the gobo logo up a bit, add another line between it and the line that the tabs are on, move the "signed in as" to the right inside those two lines and then pul all of those icons on the same line, but keeping the home icon there for now.

    and yes, they are vertically misaligned, bare with me for one or two more days to implement all the corrections
    • CommentAuthorm@cCo
    • CommentTimeJan 11th 2008 edited
     # 36
    No problem, take you time ;)
    Concerning the font, I think a more narrowed one could be more readable, what do you think? Maybe not the same as in the forum's default, but this looks just a bit to "fat" :D
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      CommentAuthorsambarino
    • CommentTimeJan 12th 2008
     # 37
    http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4680/screenshot1ny1.png

    here is a screenshot of my work on the theme, tried to match www as closely as possible, also i took out the home icon but made the gobolinux logo a link to www.

    now i am going to work on the colour suggestions.
    • CommentAuthorm@cCo
    • CommentTimeJan 13th 2008
     # 38
    Posted By: sambarinohttp://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4680/screenshot1ny1.png

    here is a screenshot of my work on the theme, tried to match www as closely as possible, also i took out the home icon but made the gobolinux logo a link to www.

    now i am going to work on the colour suggestions.
    Hmm, I wonder why the space between the logo and the icons looks so narrow in the screenshot while it's huge on the website...
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      CommentAuthorsambarino
    • CommentTimeJan 13th 2008
     # 39
    Posted By: m@cCoHmm, I wonder why the space between the logo and the icons looks so narrow in the screenshot while it's huge on the website...


    if you're referring to the the forum when you say "website" then i would say its because the icons are on 2 lines now but only 1 in that screenshot.

    if you're referring to the www website when you say "website" then i would say its dependant on the size of your browser window
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      CommentAuthorsambarino
    • CommentTimeJan 13th 2008
     # 40
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      CommentAuthorvazub
    • CommentTimeJan 13th 2008
     # 41
    I like it. However, it is quite difficult to distinguish new or updated topics - they totally blend in with other forum fields. I propose making them more saturated, or of different colour. Also, it might be better to have the digits in "new" field displayed in red rather than in green. Just my 2 cents..
    • CommentAuthorm@cCo
    • CommentTimeJan 13th 2008
     # 42
    I was looking at the wiki page and I've noticed that the menus on the left always have a pale blue background with green links and darker blue titles. I think we could use these colors for the forum's left panel, and to use the green of the box in the wiki's first page for the background of threads, with the same green as the links I said before for the topic header. It remains to decide colors for nicknames and information such as "started by somebody".

    Actually too many colors in this forum :P
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      CommentAuthorsambarino
    • CommentTimeJan 14th 2008
     # 43
    hmm... i still get version 003 when i try to view the forum for some reason.
    but i've already gone through the wiki colors with m@cco, thanks m@cco

    which numbers are you refering to that could be red?
    • CommentAuthorm@cCo
    • CommentTimeJan 14th 2008
     # 44
    Posted By: sambarinohmm... i still get version 003 when i try to view the forum for some reason.
    but i've already gone through the wiki colors with m@cco, thanks m@cco

    which numbers are you refering to that could be red?
    Who spoke about red?
    • CommentAuthorMohjive
    • CommentTimeJan 14th 2008
     # 45
    Posted By: vazubAlso, it might be better to have the digits in "new" field displayed in red rather than in green.

    ...and I agree. :)
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      CommentAuthorsambarino
    • CommentTimeJan 14th 2008
     # 46
    which digits? im confused... i will only be able to work on it tomorrow
    • CommentAuthorMohjive
    • CommentTimeJan 14th 2008 edited
     # 47
    It's the <li> element with "DiscussionNew" class. I don't think red is a good choice as red text on green background is bad if you're red-green colorblind. But now it's green on green, which doesn't give that good contrast either.

    Edit: btw, why do people use 'class' on elements that clearly should use 'id'?
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      CommentAuthorvazub
    • CommentTimeJan 15th 2008 edited
     # 48
    Posted By: MohjiveIt's the <li> element with "DiscussionNew" class

    Exactly! Thanks, Jonas! :)
    Also, I agree that red might not be the best option, but we definitely need some contrast. And again - the background for updated discussions is almost the same in colour as for old ones. It needs either more darkening/saturating or switching to an alternative one.
    • CommentAuthorm@cCo
    • CommentTimeJan 15th 2008 edited
     # 49
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      CommentAuthorvazub
    • CommentTimeJan 15th 2008
     # 50
    Posted By: m@cCoHere's some mock-ups I've just made. Any comment's appreciated.

    I like the first one the best. However, I would also like to see this variant combined with current "left panel" colour - it might be nice as well.
    • CommentAuthorm@cCo
    • CommentTimeJan 15th 2008
     # 51
    • CommentAuthorMichael
    • CommentTimeJan 15th 2008
     # 52
    Posted By: MohjiveIt's the <li> element with "DiscussionNew" class. I don't think red is a good choice as red text on green background is bad if you're red-green colorblind. But now it's green on green, which doesn't give that good contrast either.
    It's especially difficult if you have a filter over your screen that dries out the saturation a bit.

    Posted By: MohjiveEdit: btw, why do people use 'class' on elements that clearly should use 'id'?
    I don't see anywhere it does that... You could make a case for "tabOn", perhaps.

    The second mockup is my preference, but with the same comment on the sidebar. But I don't mind much, and I have pretty poor aesthetic sense in any case.
    • CommentAuthorMichael
    • CommentTimeJan 16th 2008
     # 53
    I've applied the latest revisions posted on the list (shift-reload if it looks the same for you).
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      CommentAuthorsambarino
    • CommentTimeJan 16th 2008
     # 54
    comments on the new version?
    • CommentAuthorm@cCo
    • CommentTimeJan 16th 2008 edited
     # 55
    Posted By: sambarinocomments on the new version?
    Better indeed! But why there are three colors for threads? I see a pale blue, a pale green and the shocking light blue we already had, what's that? Also, in the left menu, why is the n from "Start a new discussion" green? Moreover, what about changing the green for the "options, notifications, RSS2" headers with the blue from the "Start a new discussion" link?
    And the orange pages numbers? Maybe we can make them the same blue of the left panel strings, and the "1 hour ago" next to the nicks the same green as the "#post, quote, edit" links on the right.

    Ok, just details anyway, compliments and many thanks to sambarino :D

    EDIT: just thought about it a little more and I don't think there's the need to change the left panel colors (apart from the "lonely" n :D)
    One more thing:

    What about the blues around? Should we try to keep them as close as possible to each other or what? Because there're many of them and someone just gives me a strange feel. Too different tones imho.
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      CommentAuthorsambarino
    • CommentTimeJan 16th 2008
     # 56
    Posted By: m@cCoBetter indeed! But why there are three colors for threads? I see a pale blue, a pale green and the shocking light blue we already had, what's that?
    there are different colors for read/unread/new, like if you have already read something but now there are new posts in that thread it will be the third color. if you want i can make that light blue the same as the pale green, i didnt think it was shocking. I actually prefer the light blue over the pale green, i could replace the pale green with the light blue, but if it is shocking then maybe not... feedback on this matter anyone?
    Also, in the left menu, why is the n from "Start a new discussion" green?
    it's not green for me, what browser are you using?
    And the orange pages numbers? Maybe we can make them the same blue of the left panel strings, and the "1 hour ago" next to the nicks the same green as the "#post, quote, edit" links on the right.
    i thought they were light red not orange :S, anyone, a few people were going on about red numbers and those are the only numbers i could find so i tried to make them red, i can always make them blue but i'd like to hear from the people who suggersted red.
    Ok, just details anyway, compliments and many thanks to sambarino :D
    EDIT: just thought about it a little more and I don't think there's the need to change the left panel colors (apart from the "lonely" n :D)
    i like the left panel colors as they are, the n is curious tho.
    One more thing:
    What about the blues around? Should we try to keep them as close as possible to each other or what? Because there're many of them and someone just gives me a strange feel. Too different tones imho.
    do you think the out of place blue might be the #04D of the usernames? perhaps i can make them #6080C0 or #37F??
    • CommentAuthorMichael
    • CommentTimeJan 16th 2008
     # 57
    Posted By: sambarinoit's not green for me, what browser are you using?
    It is for me. It's only very slightly so; it's more obvious if you mouse over the link. It's green because it's emphasised, and it's emphasised because it's the shortcut key.

    Posted By: sambarinoi thought they were light red not orange :S, anyone, a few people were going on about red numbers and those are the only numbers i could find so i tried to make them red, i can always make them blue but i'd like to hear from the people who suggersted red.
    The numbers they were talking about are the "New: 2" numbers in the discussions list, when there are new posts in them. They used to be highlighted much more, which new posts stand out more. I think the current red numbers were better as they were before.
    • CommentAuthorm@cCo
    • CommentTimeJan 16th 2008 edited
     # 58
    Posted By: MichaelIt is for me. It's only very slightly so; it's more obvious if you mouse over the link. It's green because it's emphasised, and it's emphasised because it's the shortcut key.

    So we can't just make it the same as the rest of the string?

    The numbers they were talking about are the "New: 2" numbers in the discussions list, when there are new posts in them. They used to be highlighted much more, which new posts stand out more. I think the current red numbers were better as they were before.

    Actually I was speaking about the orange/light red/red number at the bottom of the page :D
    Anyway I agree with you, the previous colors seem more suitable.

    @sambarino: firefox, but as Michael stated, there's a reason why :D
    About the not-read/read/new distinction, maybe we could just use two of them? Namely not-read and read? With which colors, sincerely, I don't know :D

    Concerning the blues, I was thinking about, for example, the blue forum's name at the top and about nicknames too, yeah. I mean, perhaps we could use just two tones of blue and green. The blues are the one used for the left panel's "start a new discussion" and the one already used by vanilla comments ("Posted By..."), while the greens could be that on the left again and the one, a bit darker, found in the "Add your comment" box.
    So to sum up:

    1. First blue/Second blue
    2. First green/Second green

      It remains to choose which color to use for what.
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      CommentAuthorsambarino
    • CommentTimeJan 17th 2008 edited
     # 59
    i'll put the page numbers and post counts back to how they were, and i'll make those "new 2" red.
    i can make the start new discussions all one color.

    in terms of which greens and blues, i would add one color to each...
    First blue/Second blue/Third blue
    First green/Second green/Third green
    for example, the "back to discussions" and "top of page" is the third green, and the name of the category/sub-forum is the third blue, do you think those need to be changed?
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      CommentAuthorvazub
    • CommentTimeJan 17th 2008
     # 60
    Since Michael has already explained what "new" fields were expected to be of more contrast I won't add anything new here.
    Anyway, finally I understood what bothered me in all the previous variants - the underlines in topic names etc. Now that they are gone - the whole thing feels a lot more polished and eye-pleasing. Thanks, sambarino!

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