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    • CommentAuthorminotaur
    • CommentTimeNov 19th 2007 edited
     # 1
    Hi friends! I downloaded Gobolinux 013, made an ISO and booted my PC from it. I saw the Gobo desktop and I liked to download it. I have an AMD Athlon 800 with two hard disks (80 GB each). The first runs Winutuxu (you know, WinXP + Ubuntu mix) and the second Ubuntu Studio 7.10. I chose to download Gobo to the same HD with Ubuntu Studio. So I started the download procedure. All gone perfect, the installation was complete without curious messages. When I restarted my computer, I saw at first the Gobo boot screen (very nice, indeed!) with three options and the "Other operating systems" option blank! When I tried to boot it, I received a "nice" black screen with the folowing messages:

    Kernel (hd1,0)/System/Kernel/Boot/Kernel
    video = vesafb: off root = /dev/hdb1
    Boot: Graphic

    Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition.
    Press any key to continue...

    I've tried the other two options (Konsole and something else I don't remember) but I had the same result. Worst of all, I've lost my Ubuntu Studio partition (Thank God, I had no files in there!) and I had to reinstall it. Can anyone help me find what did gone wrong? Thanks!
    • CommentAuthorMichael
    • CommentTimeNov 20th 2007
     # 2
    Posted By: minotaurKernel (hd1,0)/System/Kernel/Boot/Kernel
    video = vesafb: off root = /dev/hdb1
    Boot: Graphic

    Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition.
    Press any key to continue...
    I've never seen that come up before. It seems to mean that either (hd1,0) or /dev/hdb1 is invalid, depending on where that error came from. It looks like a grub error.

    Was the partition valid if you mounted it from somewhere else? I suppose it's possible the partition became silently corrupted during the installation. Another explanation might be that the installed version detects the drives in a different order than the live CD did.

    I suggest trying again with the most recent 014 prerelease. They've had a lot of bugs fixed, including some with the partition detection, so you might have a better shot with them.

    Posted By: minotaurWorst of all, I've lost my Ubuntu Studio partition (Thank God, I had no files in there!) and I had to reinstall it.
    I wouldn't suggest installing over the top of anything you don't want to destroy in any case, in case something does go wrong and the new thing doesn't work. You've got plenty of space, and you can fit a complete install comfortably well under 10GB, so just make a new partition and install there.
    • CommentAuthorminotaur
    • CommentTimeNov 21st 2007 edited
     # 3
    014 was worst! The installation failed! Nothing gone right! What's going on with these Gobo Live CDs? You know, the Qt Parted didn't worked at all!

    How can I create a new partition with 013 Live CD? Or even with 014 (without QP)
    • CommentAuthorMichael
    • CommentTimeNov 21st 2007
     # 4
    The 014 CDs should have GParted, not QtParted (so are you sure you had the right one in?), and it works pretty well, I used it myself. These instructions are for GParted, but the interfaces are pretty similar between the two.

    You can right-click some blank space on the bar and choose "new" to create a new partition, filling in the form as you want to choose how big it is and the filesystem. When you're done, choose "Apply All Operations" from the edit menu to apply your changes.

    If you need to create space for your new partition, right-click the existing partition you want to shrink or move and choose "Resize/Move", then fill out a similar form to the creation one. Most filesystems it supports can be resized in at least the downwards direction; you can see a table from File->Show Features.

    In what way did the installation fail?
    • CommentAuthorm@cCo
    • CommentTimeNov 21st 2007 edited
     # 5
    I searched for the error and found some comments which states it have something to do with grub renumbering hds so that the one you boot from become hd0. I don't know if this is your case.

    Anyway the 014 iso worked for me as well.
    • CommentAuthorminotaur
    • CommentTimeNov 22nd 2007
     # 6
    I don't know what to say! I downloaded the 014 iso image, my live CD runs well enough, but when I try to install it, everything turns to error. The final message is "Installation failed". The live 013 CD runs fine the installation procedure, but the result is disaster! The 014 can't be installed! What can I do? Is there any possibility for my 014 CD to be corrupted or something like this?

    As for the "QtParted", this is the name of the icon placed near the "Install Gobolinux" icon. Please look http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=684&num=1 to see that QtParted exist instead of GParted. Also the icon item is like a piece of paper like those files that are not recognized by our system! 013's icon was different and worked out!
    • CommentAuthorMichael
    • CommentTimeNov 22nd 2007
     # 7
    My 014 CD very definitely has GParted; if yours doesn't, you've got the wrong one. I'm looking at 20071010, so the change came then at the latest. 20071017, the current snapshot linked from the downloads page should include the same. The linked screenshots are clearly not recent, since the wallpaper is wrong.

    Posted By: minotaurThe final message is "Installation failed".
    Posting the rest of the messages would be helpful.

    Posted By: minotaurIs there any possibility for my 014 CD to be corrupted or something like this?
    It's possible, it may have downloaded wrong. Check the MD5 against the one posted on the downloads page (`md5sum GoboLinux-014pre20071017.iso`, or `md5sum /dev/hdc` (say) to check the CD itself). A corrupted image could lead to strange problems.

    Another route you could take if you can't get the install process to work correctly is to use your existing grub install from Ubuntu, and just add the necessary lines for 013 to the /boot/grub/menu.lst file. That would get you past any errors the installer made in its grub setup and into a working system.
    • CommentAuthorm@cCo
    • CommentTimeNov 22nd 2007
     # 8
    I think you may have downloaded the RC1 iso, which gave problems to me too (the console didn't even start). You should probably get the latest snapshot, as Michael showed.

    Bye.
    • CommentAuthorminotaur
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2007 edited
     # 9
    Posted By: m@cCo</cite>I think you may have downloaded the RC1 iso, which gave problems to me too (the console didn't even start). You should probably get the latest snapshot, as Michael showed.

    Bye.

    Maybe! What else can I suppose?
    • CommentAuthorMichael
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2007 edited
     # 10
    In fact, there's a new snapshot out right now: http://www.gobolinux.org/iso/GoboLinux-014pre20071122.iso md5sum 90ae24e2c732431d8c6776b89de75a8e
    • CommentAuthorminotaur
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2007 edited
     # 11
    Look, Michael, I downloaded another iso from the link that you gave me. Indeed, GParted was in the place of the Qtparted image! The desktop also was different from my other "014" pre-release CD. I created a new partition according to instructions and I installed in there the Gobo 014. When I rebooted the PC, I saw only Winutuxu and Ubuntu Studio choices! I opened the "Computer" into Ubuntu Studio and I founded my Gobo distro in the HD. All I want to ask is how can I see Gobo from my grub screen (as it is hidden inside the HD)? I must say that I've made my system boot by a "dual-boot type" screen which contains both Hard Disks of my computer. How can I put my Gobo in between?
    • CommentAuthorMichael
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2007
     # 12
    You'll want to add the relevant lines from your /System/Kernel/boot/grub/menu.lst to your Ubuntu grub configuration file (if that's what you're using as a bootloader; if not, put the appropriate settings to achieve the same effect). They will be similar to the ones you posted above from the error message. Take the whole stanza (from title= to kernel=) and add it to the end of the file, I think it's /boot/grub/menu.lst in Ubuntu.

    The installer won't have modified the settings of your existing bootloader, only set up its own. If you want to use the Gobo grub, you can install that to the boot record in the usual way once you're in the system (see `man grub`). You'll probably need to add the lines for your other operating systems to the menu.lst file as well.
    • CommentAuthorminotaur
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2007 edited
     # 13
    Posted By: Michael: You'll want to add the relevant lines from your /System/Kernel/boot/grub/menu.lst to your Ubuntu grub configuration file (if that's what you're using as a bootloader; if not, put the appropriate settings to achieve the same effect). They will be similar to the ones you posted above from the error message. Take the whole stanza (from title= to kernel=) and add it to the end of the file, I think it's /boot/grub/menu.lst in Ubuntu.

    The installer won't have modified the settings of your existing bootloader, only set up its own. If you want to use the Gobo grub, you can install that to the boot record in the usual way once you're in the system (see `man grub`). You'll probably need to add the lines for your other operating systems to the menu.lst file as well.
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    Because I'm a newbie (but who likes to learn), can you tell me step by step the moves that I must make to add these relevant lines? And I mean, "step by step"! For your information, the first to boot is Ubuntu Studio to the first HD and to the second HD, in "Other operating systems", are Winutuxu and Gobo 014 (but hidden).
    • CommentAuthorMichael
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2007
     # 14
    I don't understand your setup a hundred percent, to be honest, but I'll try:
    Open /boot/grub/menu.lst (may be called grub.conf) for whichever system you're running grub from (sounds like Ubuntu Studio?) in a text editor, as root. Also open the file /System/Kernel/Boot/grub/menu.lst on the Gobo partition. Copy the lines that look something like:
    title=GoboLinux 014
    root (hd1,0)
    kernel (hd1,0)/System/Kernel/Boot/Kernel video=vesafb:off root=/dev/hdb1 boot=graphic
    (copied from error message above, your actual file probably differs somewhat)

    Take that whole block of lines, in between blank lines, and add it to the end of the Ubuntu menu.lst. There may be more than one stanza, the first one should be the main one, but they all do much the same. You should make a backup of the file first in case you make a mistake and it causes an error on boot. Save the file and reboot, and it should be there.

    If there isn't a menu.lst file in the Gobo install, or you can't match the instructions with your system, please post the following:
    1) Your /boot/grub/menu.lst from Ubuntu, in its entirety (possibly called grub.conf)
    2) Which partition you installed Gobo on: /dev/something
    3) /System/Kernel/Boot/grub/menu.lst from Gobo, if it exists
    4) The output of `fdisk -l` (as root), and some commentary on which partitions are what so I can get an idea of the layout of your system.
    • CommentAuthorminotaur
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2007 edited
     # 15
    Thanks a lot Michael, I'll try to follow the steps. If I have any problems I'll be back!

    (My grub system is indeed Ubuntu Studio which is in the one HD, alone. Winutuxu and Gobo are in the second HD).
    • CommentAuthorMichael
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2007
     # 16
    An update now that I'm home: the lines the 014 installer generates look like this (from my system):
    title GoboLinux - Graphic Desktop
    kernel (hd0,7)/System/Kernel/Boot/kernel vga=0 root=/dev/hda8 Boot=Graphic

    title GoboLinux - Console
    kernel (hd0,7)/System/Kernel/Boot/kernel vga=0 root=/dev/hda8

    title GoboLinux - Framebuffer Console
    kernel (hd0,7)/System/Kernel/Boot/kernel vga=791 root=/dev/hda8
    Yours should differ in the "(hd0,7)" and "/dev/hda8" parts.
    • CommentAuthorminotaur
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2007 edited
     # 17
    Well, I erased U.S. partition and reinstalled Gobo in its place. I placed grubber in the other HD. When I rebooted the system, I received "Error 15" and when I tried to boot from the other HD, "Error 17". What's going on with this Gobo boot system?
    • CommentAuthorminotaur
    • CommentTimeNov 24th 2007
     # 18
    New effort: Created new partition in hd (29.39 GiB), applied all operations, made new installation (full), placed the grubber in the same HD.

    Result? Kernel (hd 1,0) /System/Kernel/Boot/kernel
    vga=0 root=/dev/hdb1 Boot=Graphic
    Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
    Press any key to continue...
    (Same with Console and Framebuffer Console)

    Tried to boot from the other HD which contains Winutuxu.
    Result? Error 15!

    Full of errors, don't you thing guys?
    • CommentAuthorm@cCo
    • CommentTimeNov 24th 2007
     # 19
    Posted By: minotaurNew effort: Created new partition in hd (29.39 GiB), applied all operations, made new installation (full), placed the grubber in the same HD.

    Result? Kernel (hd 1,0) /System/Kernel/Boot/kernel
    vga=0 root=/dev/hdb1 Boot=Graphic
    Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
    Press any key to continue...
    (Same with Console and Framebuffer Console)

    Tried to boot from the other HD which contains Winutuxu.
    Result? Error 15!

    Full of errors, don't you thing guys?
    Are all the partitions numbers correct? Grub starts from 0 for the disk and the partition. Also remember grub takes the hd from which you boot as the number 0.
    • CommentAuthorMichael
    • CommentTimeNov 24th 2007
     # 20
    Posted By: m@cCoAre all the partitions numbers correct? Grub starts from 0 for the disk and the partition. Also remember grub takes the hd from which you boot as the number 0.
    That is a good point to keep in mind. I'm still not sure exactly what the geometry of your system is, but changing that to (hd0,0) might help. The other thread around now might be helpful too: it suggests the gfxmenu line is at fault, so try Mohjive's annotated post on for size. Try that first, actually.

    If it still doesn't go for you, please post the information I listed in my previous post, and also which of the drives has grub on it.
    • CommentAuthorminotaur
    • CommentTimeNov 24th 2007
     # 21
    Look. My computer is an AMD Athlon 807 MHz, 640 MB RAM with two Hard Disks, let' s say Hda and Hdb. Now, hda contains Winutuxu and hdb contains Linux Mint 4.0 (instead of erased Ubuntu Studio). So, what can I do to install Gobo, let's say to hda, according to GParted. Please, Michael, guide me step by step. Give me all the choices that I must do in GParted for having a nice grub and see all my partitions.
    • CommentAuthorMichael
    • CommentTimeNov 24th 2007
     # 22
    Shrink your partition on hda, if necessary, and make a new ext3 (or your filesystem of choice) partition there. That part isn't a problem, I think you've managed it already. The grub config is what causes the problem now, I think, so make the changes I pointed you to last time (they're bolded; if Gobo is the second partition on hda, the posted version is completely correct). If that doesn't work, we can try something else to track the problem down, but that's the next step for now no matter what.

    Once you're up and running in Gobo, we can work on adding your other operating systems to the menu, but I can't do more there unless you provide the information I requested.
    • CommentAuthorminotaur
    • CommentTimeNov 25th 2007
     # 23
    Hypothetical steps (Step by step):

    1. I opened GParted and created in hda a new partition of 35.18 Gib ext-3, named "New partition". I pressed "Apply all operations".
    So we have: /dev/hda1 39.35 GiB, with "boot" flag and /dev/hda2 35.18 GiB, with no flag. I don't see any hd0. How can I add that?

    2. I go for the installation.

    Is it OK?
    • CommentAuthorm@cCo
    • CommentTimeNov 25th 2007
     # 24
    Posted By: minotaurHypothetical steps (Step by step):

    1. I opened GParted and created in hda a new partition of 35.18 Gib ext-3, named "New partition". I pressed "Apply all operations".
    So we have: /dev/hda1 39.35 GiB, with "boot" flag and /dev/hda2 35.18 GiB, with no flag. I don't see any hd0. How can I add that?

    2. I go for the installation.

    Is it OK?
    You don't have to add anything, hd0 is just the name grub gives to your boot hard drive. So if you boot (as it should be) from hda, it will be called hd0 by grub. The same applies for partitions: hda1 becomes (hd0,0) and hda2 (hd0,1).
    You just have to subtract one from the partition number and remember to associate a with 0, b with 1 and so on (supposing, as I'm doing, that you boot from hda).

    And that's all. Now you should run the installer and see what happens. Just remember to install Gobolinux on the hda2 partition (that's why you created it, isn't it?).
    • CommentAuthorminotaur
    • CommentTimeNov 25th 2007 edited
     # 25
    I followed exactly the procedures and installed Gobo in the hda2 partition and now it's hidden again! I see Linux Mint (the main grabber) in hdb1 and Winutuxu in hda1 (same disc with Gobo), but not my beloved Gobo! How can I manually rename the partitions? (e.x. hda1 to hd0,0, etc)
    • CommentAuthorm@cCo
    • CommentTimeNov 25th 2007 edited
     # 26
    What do you mean with "renaming partitions"? Btw could you please post your menu.lst?
    In the meantime, you can try the following:

    1. From grub's boot screen type c (it should take you to the command line)
    2. Then type each line followed by return

      root (hd0,1) #let grub knows which partition to search in
      kernel /System/Kernel/Boot/kernel root=/dev/hda2 #tells grub to load the specified kernel
      boot #what could that ever do? :P

    Report any message for debug.

    Bye
    • CommentAuthorMichael
    • CommentTimeNov 25th 2007
     # 27
    Also, what do you mean by "hidden"?

    Follow the instructions in m@cCo's post and see what comes up.
    • CommentAuthorminotaur
    • CommentTimeNov 25th 2007 edited
     # 28
    "Hidden" means that I don't see it in the boot screen. I see only Winutuxu and Linux Mint!
    • CommentAuthorm@cCo
    • CommentTimeNov 25th 2007
     # 29
    Posted By: minotaur"Hidden" means that I don't see it in the boot screen. I see only Winutuxu and Linux Mint!
    Wait a sec, which grub installation are we talkin about? The linuxmint one or the gobo one? 'cause, according to your words, it simply seems like you're missing the gobo entry in grub's configuration file.
    Did you let gobo install grub on hda's mbr?
    • CommentAuthorMichael
    • CommentTimeNov 25th 2007
     # 30
    So what you mean is, Gobo's grub isn't installed? Or at least, isn't installed on your boot partition?

    Like I said, the installer won't modify your existing configuration, just install its own. If you told it to install there and it didn't, that's a bug, but otherwise you need to add the lines we gave to the menu.lst you are using, whatever that is. Or boot into Gobo with m@cCo's instructions and install its grub on the MBR (see `grub help`).

    We really can't help you more unless you follow the instructions given or post the information requested - we just don't have enough data.