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    • CommentAuthorminotaur
    • CommentTimeNov 28th 2007
     # 61
    Sorry guys for not answering, but I'm sick, with headaches and vomits! I'll be back when I'm all right. Thanks!
    • CommentAuthorm@cCo
    • CommentTimeNov 28th 2007 edited
     # 62
    Posted By: minotaurSorry guys for not answering, but I'm sick, with headaches and vomits! I'll be back when I'm all right. Thanks!
    That's not because of Gobo, I hope :D
    Heal soon, bye!
    • CommentAuthorminotaur
    • CommentTimeNov 28th 2007
     # 63
    No, no of course!! :) I feel a little better today.
    But I'm really tired to try boot Gobo! I have no experience in black screens and command lines! I erased (for the third time) all the 2 HDs and installed Gobo and only Gobo. The result? Error 22 and Error 15 as I tried to boot from both hard disks! I'm really desperate! I have istalled about 10 linux distros and it's the first time that I confront such a problem. Is like Gobo has no grub! Now, I have Geubuntu and (hidden, of course) Gobo in HDa and Linux Mint in HDb. I'm ready to quit! Maybe have better luck on Gobo 015, because I really want to install it in my computer...
    • CommentAuthoribendiben
    • CommentTimeNov 28th 2007 edited
     # 64
    Too bad man...
    It looks smart to wait for 015 but at the other hand the more people test 014 the better 015 is going to be :P
    When you feel better you might want to try downloading and burning 'puppy linux' (it's about 100Mb). As far as I know puppy runs as root so you don't have the difficulty of permissions and passwords, you could simply boot the puppy life-cd, mount the Gobolinux partition and navigate to the menu.lst file in the grub-folder and edit it in a graphical text editor from within puppy. I'll try that this evening too, to see if it works.
    • CommentAuthorminotaur
    • CommentTimeNov 28th 2007
     # 65
    OK, maybe I will... Thanks for everything! :)
    • CommentAuthoribendiben
    • CommentTimeNov 28th 2007 edited
     # 66
    That worked great! I booted the puppy cd, you only need to specify language and choose xvesa to be your video driver thats a safe choice. Now test a resolution. Next you can click on the usb-stick-icon think it says drives or something. Here you can choose harddrives to mount... mount and click on the folder icon in the same screen to enter the partition. Now you browse to grubfolder click the menu.lst file and make the apropriate modifications. Scroll up this topic to see several ways on doing that correctly. Now you save the file and done! Reboot and pray you beat it this time :)

    Just for the error 15 message you may want to have a look at the other topic. That is probably due to the gfx menu-line. Any strange outputs you can post here using the puppy cd too.
    • CommentAuthorminotaur
    • CommentTimeNov 28th 2007
     # 67
    I'll try "puppy". I've nothing to lose! The "vesa" choice is in the live-CD's menu or you activate it with a command? When I mount the partitions I do that for all available partitions? And when I enter the grub folder I just paste the lines that you gave me? And no passwords and no "forbidden"?
    • CommentAuthorMichael
    • CommentTimeNov 28th 2007
     # 68
    My advice is to try to get things going using one of the known good grub installs (Ubuntu, Linux Mint, one of the ones you know has worked), and to add the Gobo settings to it. That will get you up and running, then we can investigate putting Gobo's grub on from a known system. I'm still not sure that it's Gobo's grub you've ended up using, so editing its configuration might not have any effect.

    If you're starting over and trying to do it with Gobo, you probably need to make the edits I pointed you to in Mohjive's post (adding (hd?,?) in the gfxmenu line and so forth).

    The Puppy way is a good one to do the editing with, since it does run as root as ibendiben pointed out - no fussing with permissions. I still suggest editing the Linux Mint menu.lst and using its grub, so mount its partition (you don't need to mount any others) and edit the boot/grub/menu.lst file there.
    • CommentAuthorm@cCo
    • CommentTimeNov 28th 2007
     # 69
    Posted By: minotaurI'll try "puppy". I've nothing to lose! The "vesa" choice is in the live-CD's menu or you activate it with a command? When I mount the partitions I do that for all available partitions? And when I enter the grub folder I just paste the lines that you gave me? And no passwords and no "forbidden"?
    I think it's a choice presented to you by the live-cd, you won't have to type anything by hand :D
    You can mount only the partition which contains the grub installation you want to modify. Mount all the partitions if you want to avoid problems.
    Last, no passwords and no forbidden, you're root, thus you can do whatever you want, be careful!
    • CommentAuthoribendiben
    • CommentTimeNov 28th 2007
     # 70
    This page describes a few things about the live-cd boot, and the selection of the vesa video driver.
    http://www.puppy-linux.info/en/manual/puppy301/3_run_puppy.html#a31
    It is quite straight forward really and you will most probably find your way around but nonetheless I will describe the steps a little bit more detailed ;)

    On the desktop you will find a usb drive icon called 'drives' click on that and you will get the following screen:
    http://www.puppy-linux.info/pic/b1660.jpg

    You can mount partitions clicking on the icon next to it. Ones you do that the color turns green and you will be able to enter the partition by clicking on the just appeared yellow icon which describes you partition name. Now you will enter a file explorer which enables you to open the file "menu.lst". You will find this file in the /boot/grub directory of the partition you installed the GRUB files to (/dev/hda2 for example).

    Ones you made the correct modifications you can exit Puppy and reboot the computer: "Menu | Shutdown | Reboot computer".
    When you reboot the computer, you will be asked whether you want to save the "session" (i.e., all the configuration changes you made). Select "DO NOT SAVE" with the cursor keys and hit Return.
    • CommentAuthorminotaur
    • CommentTimeNov 28th 2007 edited
     # 71
    OK fellows, thanks alot! Maybe I tired you all with my ignorance here, but you see, I'm trying hard to enter your Gobo family. I will take the possibilities right from the start and see what I can do. :)
    • CommentAuthorminotaur
    • CommentTimeNov 28th 2007
     # 72
    But, I would like to ask from the Gobo devellopers to pay attention to the normal grub of the distro, because I think we have a serious bug here. I hope 015 to be better.
    • CommentAuthorm@cCo
    • CommentTimeNov 28th 2007
     # 73
    Posted By: minotaurBut, I would like to ask from the Gobo devellopers to pay attention to the normal grub of the distro, because I think we have a serious bug here. I hope 015 to be better.
    Indeed there was a bug in the 014 RC1 iso, but then I tried the 20071017 one and everything went fine. Which one are you using?
    • CommentAuthorminotaur
    • CommentTimeNov 29th 2007 edited
     # 74
    Don't worry!:) :) If you take a look in my first posts on the subject, you'll see that it was the first CD that I've burned and tried to install. Its screenshots can be found here: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=684&num=1. The title is: "GoboLinux 014 RC1", so it's the one! Later, I downloaded another iso from the link that Michael gave me and founded GParted etc. So it's the new and "good" CD that I use. The bug exists to this one, I'm afraid...
    • CommentAuthorm@cCo
    • CommentTimeNov 29th 2007 edited
     # 75
    Hmm, you're right, I had forgotten our early discussion :P
    I really don't know what to tell you. Maybe you can try to install gobo grub directly from the live-cd, with the steps reported in this wiki's page.
    You have to mount your gobo partition like this:

    mount -t ext2 /dev/hda2 /Mount/gobolinux #this dir should already exists, if not create it with "mkdir /Mount/gobolinux"

    And then follow the wiki.
    I hope you'll finally succeed, this is becoming a personal affair :D
    • CommentAuthorminotaur
    • CommentTimeNov 29th 2007
     # 76
    I noticed that, thanks m@cCo! :)
    • CommentAuthorMichael
    • CommentTimeNov 29th 2007
     # 77
    I think (think!) that part of the problem might be that it's installed grub on the wrong HDD - it shouldn't not install it at all unless explicitly instructed so. But first we want to get you up and running, then we can figure out the problem.

    Manually installing grub from a live CD is another option for you - if you can manage it, it's probably the best one, since then we'll all know we're on the same page software-wise.
    • CommentAuthorMichael
    • CommentTimeNov 29th 2007
     # 78
    Actually, let me rephrase that: I'm still not sure whether you had Gobo's grub installed at any point or not. There is a bug in the latest ISO that can cause problems in some setups, but it's a relatively simple-to-fix one (that we posted instructions for way back at the beginning), so I'm guessing you didn't.
    • CommentAuthorminotaur
    • CommentTimeNov 29th 2007
     # 79
    Let me doubt about this Michael, because (as I've already said) I have installed many distos on my Hds this 1 year that I'm in Linux. But, I'll trust your experience.
    OK, let's start from the beginning. I've got a Gobo 014 LiveCD. Tell me STEP-BY-STEP, how to install it. I've got 2 hard disks. The fist contains Geubuntu (hda) and the second Linux Mint (hdb). Give me all the choices that I need to have the desirable result: Gobo installed equally with the other two distributions.
    When I say "step-by-step" I mean like we look at the live CD together. I will follow the same steps and I hope for the success this time! :) I erase the Gobo partition on Hda and I'm waiting for you.
    • CommentAuthorm@cCo
    • CommentTimeNov 30th 2007 edited
     # 80
    I don't remember every single step the gobo installer takes, but let's try anyway:

    1. First of all, choose the partition you want gobo to be installed to. In your case I'd suggest to use a partition on the first disk, just to be sure. So hda2 (given it is the gobo partition you've just erased, otherwise use the correct number after hda) is the way to go.

    2. Second, tell gobo to format it (ext3 is a fair choice).

    3. At this point you should have gobo asking you to choose a password for the root user together with a name for him. Just call him root for simplicity and REMEMBER the password you've chosen.

    4. If you want create another user (which will be your everyday user), e.g. "Minotaur", with the password you prefer. Also tell gobo to give him administrative privileges by checking the checkbox provided.
      This step it strongly recommended, as it considerably improves your system's security.

    5. Choose to install grub in the mbr of the disk gobo resides on, namely hda.
      BE CAREFUL: this means you'll get others grub installations completely overwritten by the gobo one. There should be nothing wrong with it, but given you weird situation never say never.
      EDIT: I've read it again and must do some corrections: in fact grub will erase others grub's installations for the part which resides on the mbr, everything else (placed in /boot) will remain untouched, so you don't have to worry about your configuration files.

    6. If I remember well, at this point you're done, just choose the package you want installed (i.e. a typical configuration) and go on with the real installation process.

    7. If everything have went fine, you'll get a working gobo system, otherwise, we are still here :D

      As I said the order in which the operations described are presented could be different. Don't worry, the important thing is that you follow every step correctly.
    • CommentAuthorminotaur
    • CommentTimeNov 30th 2007
     # 81
    I'll do exactly as you tell me to do. One question here: If the result is the same (no grub or grub errors), can I return to the present situation by erasing Gobo partition? Or I have to reinstall the two present distros again?
    • CommentAuthoribendiben
    • CommentTimeNov 30th 2007
     # 82
    No you don't have to reinstall, you only need to find a way to start them, for this there is an utility called SuperGrub which you can burn on cd, and boot... Via there you can try to fix/reinstall grub and/or start an os.
    • CommentAuthorm@cCo
    • CommentTimeNov 30th 2007
     # 83
    Posted By: ibendibenNo you don't have to reinstall, you only need to find a way to start them, for this there is an utility called SuperGrub which you can burn on cd, and boot... Via there you can try to fix/reinstall grub and/or start an os.
    Another way could be to boot a live cd of one of the linux distros you've installed and from here reinstall grub (the necessary steps are the same as to install gobo's grub, just cut the --prefix option from the command as found in the wiki's page I pointed you to before).
    • CommentAuthorMohjive
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2007
     # 84
    I don't know how this issue progresses, but I have tracked down and fixed some issues with generation of the grub menu.lst. So next snapshot should probably not have these problems. Thanks for the input.

    @minotaur: if you have reinstalled, but not succeeded the current output from 'fdisk -l' would be helpful.
    • CommentAuthorminotaur
    • CommentTimeDec 4th 2007 edited
     # 85
    Well, my friends, I used SuperGrub disc and the situation in my HDs is:

    N IDE SCSI GRUB HURD TYPE OS
    1. hda1 sda1 (hd0,0) hd0s1 ext2fs
    2. hda2 sda2 (hd0,1) hd0s2 ext2fs Ubuntu 7.04 \n \l
    3. hda5 sda5 (hd0,4) hd0s5 SWAP

    1. hdb1 sdb1 (hd1,0) hd1s1 ext2fs
    2. hdb2 sdb2 (hd1,1) hd1s2 ext2fs
    3. hdb3 sdb3 (hd1,2) hd1s3 ext2fs Linux Mint Daryna \n \l
    5. hdb5 sdb5 (hd1,4) hd1s5 SWAP

    What do you think? I think that something's goin' on at the hdb. Why 4 partitions instead of 3?
    • CommentAuthorm@cCo
    • CommentTimeDec 4th 2007 edited
     # 86
    Posted By: minotaurWell, my friends, I used SuperGrub disc and the situation in my HDs is:

    N IDE SCSI GRUB HURD TYPE OS
    1. hda1 sda1 (hd0,0) hd0s1 ext2fs
    2. hda2 sda2 (hd0,1) hd0s2 ext2fs Ubuntu 7.04 \n \l
    3. hda5 sda5 (hd0,4) hd0s5 SWAP

    1. hdb1 sdb1 (hd1,0) hd1s1 ext2fs
    2. hdb2 sdb2 (hd1,1) hd1s2 ext2fs
    3. hdb3 sdb3 (hd1,2) hd1s3 ext2fs Linux Mint Daryna \n \l
    5. hdb5 sdb5 (hd1,4) hd1s5 SWAP

    What do you think? I think that something's goin' on at the hdb. Why 4 partitions instead of 3?
    The two additional partitions are probably for /home and /boot, I think, or something similar but with different dirs names. Did you install gobolinux on hda? If so, you should tell grub to boot the first partition, (hd0,0).
    • CommentAuthorminotaur
    • CommentTimeDec 4th 2007 edited
     # 87
    I decided it! I'll wait for the 015.